tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post373569299890304155..comments2024-03-13T10:11:14.165-04:00Comments on Fair Chase Hunting: Public Trust bill has first hearing in MontpelierEric C. Nusehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08415209205400590485noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-90812424091692677152011-02-17T13:59:49.066-05:002011-02-17T13:59:49.066-05:00Much of the bill is massively stupid, redundant, a...Much of the bill is massively stupid, redundant, and poorly written. (oversteer, if you will). <br /><br />Transition C.1 holds Nelson unaccountable. The rest of the bill does nothing. Nelson can either 1) turn it into a zoo, 2) fill his tags each year, or 3) have all his buddies fill their tags each year, 4) have under the table for profit hunts, or 5) all of the above.<br /><br />Other parts of the bill are moot and redundant. There already are laws governing importation of animals, from cats, dogs, chickens, and cows to wild and domestic cervidae. There are no exceptions to those rules by anyone. <br /><br />"..upon transfer of regulatory authority to the department of fish and wildlife, a relevant captive hunt facility that is complying with the requirements of Sec. E.702.1 of No. 156 of the Acts of the 2009 Adj. Sess.2 (2010) and the agency of agriculture, food and markets’ rules governing..."<br /><br />Transfer of the facility to the FWD is stupid, but at least the bill acknowledges the FWD doesn't have the right toolbox. Once/if the native animals are removed, the Ag Dept should remain in control. The FWD has no role. Once the wild deer are removed, what rules, labs, and scientists will be used as resources for management of the facility? It will be the Ag department's resources. If anything, injecting the FWD department into the equation (which means Nelson<->FWD<->Ag Dept) means more bureaucracy in the management of the facility, which of course means less management. The bill is "cut off the nose to spite the face".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-45680445032822202672011-02-16T15:25:33.243-05:002011-02-16T15:25:33.243-05:00Also to maybe their is some housekeeping rule issu...Also to maybe their is some housekeeping rule issues with elk being considered big game in tital 10 and under ag authority. Does REG.19 cover that?<br /><br />RodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-18333216372306316432011-02-15T17:01:22.156-05:002011-02-15T17:01:22.156-05:00After Some careful review of our H.91 bill, there ...After Some careful review of our H.91 bill, there are changes that must happen ! Correct me if I'm Wrong. SEC. 5 Transition, Sections 1-4 should be removed and simplified to revert back to T. 10 REG. 19! Why does the owner still maintain the status quo of agreement? All the work Brian and the board put into definitions in Reg . 19 Should apply<br /><br />(2) wild cervidae entrapped at the captive facility shall remain at the facility until( the owner of a relevant captive hunt facility and ) the commissioner of F&W "Agree" to a final dis postion of the wild cervidae entrapped at the facility;<br /><br /> Why does this section maintain his power? This bill should not empower the owner. Part (3) says no deer out but leaves out, no more deer in. Part (4) should say The wild cervidae entrapped shall not be subject to hunt! This allows him to collect the checks! No wonder their is no resistance from the owner ,he's maintaining the status quo! Why does part (C) say "Except that" it leaves the Dept. Impotant! Page 7of 9 line 19! Is our Lawyer mentioning these things?<br /><br />Rod ElmerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-62891428952572926062011-02-12T17:19:04.985-05:002011-02-12T17:19:04.985-05:00According to her testimony to the House committee ...According to her testimony to the House committee on Tuesday, she withdrew herself after only a couple weeks in the fall of 2009.<br /><br />Brian AmesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-11459677115239388162011-02-12T12:16:53.038-05:002011-02-12T12:16:53.038-05:00I was unaware that Pam Vesilind was the Moose'...I was unaware that Pam Vesilind was the Moose's lawyer! As written on the moose's supporter's web site. Did she remove herself from the property after learning things because of conflicts of interest? Before the position paper?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-21193150823356046892011-02-10T16:23:23.610-05:002011-02-10T16:23:23.610-05:00below excerpt is from the 1st story above. The ne...below excerpt is from the 1st story above. The new F&W commissioner has a pair - yeah! <br /><br />[Fish and Wildlife Commissioner Patrick Berry noted that while Nelson says he wants to save the deer, “he has raised these animals specifically to have someone kill them” in his private hunting compound, where hunters pay as much as $12,500 to shoot a big elk. “He’s keeping native wildlife in a penned facility so people can pay to kill them.”]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-37787819109816220222011-02-10T13:18:55.291-05:002011-02-10T13:18:55.291-05:00Thanks Rod! I will get the VT Law School paper out...Thanks Rod! I will get the VT Law School paper out via email to the group. I agree we should reconvene and work on an outreach/education plan.Eric C. Nusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08415209205400590485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8400018814519499369.post-10749788383463697602011-02-09T18:15:42.297-05:002011-02-09T18:15:42.297-05:00The Vt.Law school's position paper was some of...The Vt.Law school's position paper was some of the most informational reading on the entire subject, history , potentials, relevancies and possible impacts. The opening sentence says it all. "Wildlife management in Vermont is undergoing sighnificant public and political change." I was truly inspired by the speakers at the meetings , especially Steve Wright's testimony today. Well said and many thanks! Perhaps VPT's Outdoor Journal, the FWD, VNRC, sportsman federation & others could collectively come together in the educational aspects that were requested today.As Steve said today ,people often think better together. This coordinating group drives these points home. A constant vigilance in protection, wise and thoughtful use must continually be taught to the people, even though seemingly it is all we do. Nice job Eric! I would hope the school's paper would be available to group members somehow. Let us know if help is needed. Great job!<br /><br /> Rod ElmerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com